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Outthinkers
#171 – Everyone's Blaming AI for Layoffs. Here's What's Actually Happening: Philipp Muelbert
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New on the Outthinkers Podcast, supported by LHH, host Kaihan Krippendorff speaks with Philipp Muelbert about the three loops every company falls into when their talent needs shift — and why the cheapest-looking option on paper is usually the most expensive one in practice. During the conversation they unpack why AI has become a convenient excuse for restructuring decisions that were coming anyway, and why almost no organisation has a head of redeployment or a budget for one.
Philipp Muelbert reflects on the hidden cultural costs of the "churn loop" — the survivor syndrome that hits the employees left behind, the institutional knowledge that walks out the door, and why new-hire retention is often harder than companies expect. He makes the financial case for redeployment over rehiring, and explains why building an alumni network of well-treated former employees can become a genuine strategic asset.
The conversation covers:
- The three loops companies fall into when talent needs change: churn, exit well, or redeploy
- 75% look for a like-for-like role after layoff, but 60% end up in a full career pivot
- Redeployment saves $140,000 per person, yet no single function owns the process
Additional Resources:
LHH: lhh.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/philippmuelbert
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