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#169 — AI Is Doing the Junior Work. Who Becomes Your Next Senior Leader? | Carrol Chang
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New on the Outthinkers Podcast, supported by LHH, host Kaihan Krippendorff speaks with Carrol Chang about why the unit of work is shifting from the full-time employee to the task itself — and what that means for every leader rethinking their workforce in the age of AI.
During the conversation they unpack what happens when AI handles all the junior work today, and who develops the senior judgment your organisation will depend on tomorrow.
Carrol Chang reflects on watching two of the biggest shifts in the history of work collide in real time at Andela, why the productivity dividend forces every leader to a strategic fork in the road, and why AI collapsing the cost of talent doesn't eliminate competitive advantage, it just moves it.
The conversation covers:
Why the unit of work is shifting from the full-time employee to the task — and what that means for how you hire, build teams, and plan headcount
The "birthrate problem": if AI absorbs all the junior work today, who develops the judgment and governance your organisation will need in five years?
What remains as your true competitive advantage when AI commoditises both capacity and expertise — and why human judgment, EQ, and relationship-building are the last real moat
Additional Resources:
Andela: andela.com
CodeWars: codewars.com
LHH: lhh.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carrolchang
Thank you again to our sponsor, LHH.
Thank you to our guest, Carrol Chang.
Thank you to our executive producer Zach Ness, our producer Nazanin Homayoun Jam and our editor James Pearce. If you enjoyed this episode, please follow, download, and subscribe. I’m your host, Kaihan Krippendorff—thank you for listening.
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